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February 29, 2008
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Hi, just a quick message to say this is great website/blog. I never realised so many “bad” things were coming out from ebay over a long period of time.
I wish i found this site earlier.
Keep up the good work.
Comment by Anon — May 11, 2008 @ 6:51 am
STL Motor Group - Scam Exposed
June 12th, 2008
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WARNING TO CONSUMERS
There are a number of websites now set up on the Internet dedicated to warn unsuspecting people of those businesses who are involved in either: false, deceptive, or misleading conduct and/or involved in unconscionable behavior in their business dealings.
This website is set up as a warning to potential purchasers of cars from STLMOTORGROUP who operate out of St Louis, Illinois. In Australia we have a word which I don’t know whether it translates into the American vernacular so well, the word is “shonky”. This is also how a number of past customers (whom I contacted) regard the STLMOTORGROUP of St Louis, and its Owner/Manager (who calls himself Jay).
BEFORE YOU CONSIDER PURCHASING A CAR FROM JAY OR STLMOTORGOUP, ST LOUIS – beware of the following practices (based on my experience in importing a lot of 3 cars, and on confirmation of other customers (I think the American term is “suckers”) who have also purchased on Ebay with disastrous results). These practices include:
* Takes wonderful photos of cars that are posted on the Internet, especially Ebay and when you get the car you wonder whether it is the same car or not (guess what?)
* Fabulous photos of log books, car history, service records etc. Nice pics but surprise surprise they don’t arrive with the car – this is a stock photo that is used to fool unsuspecting buyers as to the ‘sound history’ and upkeep of the car’
* Misrepresents the state of repair of the car – The three popular descriptions used in cars are FAIR (suitable for restoration but most of the parts are there), GOOD (good running order, with an exterior and internal trim in a good state of repair consistent to the mileage and age of the car; or: EXCELLENT – generally meaning immaculate or near showroom condition. Beware of claims from STLMOTORGROUP cars in “excellent” or even “good” condition. Read this as “fair”, if you are lucky.
* Says will “upgrade the wheels”, and make other promises – but again, fails to deliver on promises.
* EBAY BUYERS be particularly aware of this one – Jay, says when the car has been shipped can a positive note be left on Ebay as a satisfied customer “so he can get his commission”. Don’t be conned, Jay is the owner and just wants to lock you out of placing a NEGATIVE in his Ebay.
This is my initial listing to urgently alert as many potential buyers as possible, I will shortly upload some pics to illustrate what I mean.
In the meantime, list on the blog your dealings with STLMOTORGROUP.
GP Sydney, Australia.
http://www.stlmotorgroup.net/ site has been set up as a community service.
Comment by GP — June 30, 2008 @ 9:02 pm