eBay Fraud Scams exposed

In the article eBay: pro-choice, but only when it suits the writer brought up an interesting point when he said:

“… and certainly hasn’t done much to neutralise the increasing toxicity of the eBay brand.

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!, I thought. eBay Brand is becoming increasingly toxic. What caused this? Major Media finally noticed and begun publishing news of too many years with too many complaints by eBay customers who were ripped off, cheated, scammed and simply ignored by eBay management.

Then I found another article by the same Author: eBay trashed its brand for sake of profits he wrote earlier.

Randy Smythe published this Article: eBay death of thousand cuts in February 2008
warning about management’s questionable decisions and changing marketplace conditions.

eBay’s managemen IS aware they are losing marketshare, as eBay’s spokesman Griff mentioned just a few days ago at eBay Live! 2008:

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Griff: We had to make these changes because, without buyers, there will be no eBay in two years.

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But unfortunately it appears that solutions offered by eBay top brass are still in the spirit of money grabbing, uncompetitive, monopolistic strategy which permiates everything eBay has done for the past 5 years. Thus eBay continues to be perceived as a marketplace full of fakes, cheats, scammers, stolen goods headed by the type of management who will close their eyes to the crimes perpetrated on their website (since they derive revenues from such crimes) till they get sued out of millions and forced by courts to make the venue safer.

Just before I completed publishing this, another news source appeared with the same observation: Sydney Morning Herald published just one hour ago: eBay pays the price for PayPal debacle

It’s hard to imagine anyone doing more damage to eBay’s reputation than the auction giant has done to itself over the past few months.

Finally bowing to public (and potential legal) pressure, eBay last week announced it has scrapped plans to force its members onto the PayPal payment system, which it owns, by excluding all other payment options except cash on delivery.

Everyone from the Reserve Bank to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission could see it was anti-competitive and monopolistic. EBay insisted it was for the protection of the buyers and sellers. My only surprise was that it could maintain this public stance with a straight face.

Update: 7/12/2008 Here is a link to eBay Brand discussion from 2005. So three years later time has shown that many of the industry experts were right three years ago.

Every year The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA) issues a report on Internet crime.

You guessed it! eBay is #1 leader in internet crime statistics by permitting rampant fraud on it’s site.
Here is a full link to the report

http://www.ic3.gov/media/annualreport/2007_IC3Report.pdf in PDF format.

IC3 agrees with this eBay user, who called eBay : The Worlds Biggest ONLINE Crime Ring and you can see the famous YouTube Video on eBay : The Worlds Biggest ONLINE Crime Ring here

BTW, eBay PR Spin department always maintained that the fraud rate on eBay site is less than 0.1 percent, which is a complete BS. I have finally found a mention on how eBay Spin department calculates this fraud percentage. Here it is, directly from horse’s mouth, as published in this CNN Money Article
“eBay says the loss to the company due to fraud in the first quarter of 2007 amounted to less than 0.1 percent of its revenue - but with net revenue of $1.8 billion, that still leaves plenty of transactions that could have been better protected. Last summer, for example, a Manhattan company that auctioned thousands of pieces of jewelry on eBay agreed to pay $400,000 to settle charges that it inflated prices by bidding in its own auctions.”

Note the KEY WORD: “loss to the company due to fraud” : so this less than one tenth of one percent fraud rate eBay Spinsters tout are losses TO EBAY. How about losses to the eBay customers????????? It’s important to listen when eBay Spinsters serve news media their usual Kool Aid, comparing apples with oranges.

There were times not so long ago that any time there were some negative news about eBay, the eBay PR department would issue some positive news fluff PR releases and effectively counter the negative news with positive.

Lately, there are so many negative news articles in just about all major media that it is simply impossible for eBay PR to cover up all that negative publicity.

As eBay gets negative billing on Major media, as opposed to few independent blogs, millions of readers become will suddenly have confirmation of their own “hunch” that ‘there is something rotten in the state of eBay’.

• Forbes : Reserve Not Met, Gurus Dump eBay advising investors to dump EBAY shares 02.25.08
• Forbes on eBay losing counterfeit lawsuit to Hermès in France 06-09-2008, summarizing other ongoing lawsuits by major design houses against eBay.

• Business Week Auctions on eBay: A Dying Breed on 6-3-2008: As consumers opt for fixed-price purchases, what happens to the company that perfected the art of online bidding—and the scores of e-auctioneers?
• Business Week eBay Auctions: Going, Going… on 6-19-2008 :
  The thrill of the hunt is fading for buyers, and longtime auctioneers aren’t happy with higher fees

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  Sunday Times UK Edition on 6-22-2008 : eBay’s small sellers rebel. This year’s conference took place in Chicago and was the most controversial in the seven-year history of eBay Live. The company had been expecting 10,000 people. It looked like half that number had turned up and the exhibitors’ hall seemed to have been reshuffled to hide the gaps.

• Australian News.Com.Au : My way or the highway, says eBay on 6-18-2008 : EBAY Australia has fired off a strongly worded letter to its 5 million customers, warning that failure to comply with its new PayPal ruling will result in an immediate removal of product listings. This is the strongest sign yet that nothing will stop plans to make PayPal, an eBay subsidiary, the only electronic payment mechanism available on the auction website. EBay’s directive comes despite a preliminary ruling last week by the competition watchdog that restricting transactions to PayPal would be anti-competitive.
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  NY Times EBay Tries to Buy a Little More Love From Sellers on 6-20-2008 : The key problem with eBay is that the value of what it offers has not kept up with the price it charges sellers. Between the fees to list items on eBay — essentially advertising — and the PayPal transaction fees, eBay often charges about 13 percent of each transaction. Sellers can pay a tad more, about 15 percent, to sell items through Amazon.com’s Marketplace service, where they get a little more protection against fraud and a site that arguably offers a better experience for their buyers. Or they can set up their own Web site and buy advertising and transaction services a la carte — an ever-more-effective option as people increasingly shop through search engines. These days, many consumers associate eBay with fraud and scams as much as they did with unique items and bargains a few years ago.

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  Wall Street Journal EBay Angers Sellers, Pleases Buyers on 6-24-2008 : EBay has operated a feedback system that let buyers rate their experience with sellers and vice versa. The company has now shifted to a system under which only buyers rate sellers. The sellers say that leaves them open to forms of blackmail and extortion by buyers, such as threatening to leave negative ratings if sellers won’t make such concessions as giving partial refunds to buyers who contend they pay too much.

• Wall Street Journal EBay Gets Little Love from Software Makers on 5-22-2008 : Software & Information Industry Association says many of those programs are pirated, and it hopes to publicly shame the e-commerce giant into cooperating with the software industry’s anti-piracy crusade. The software-industry trade group criticized eBay for being “totally non-responsive” to its efforts to eliminate fake or copied software from the auction site, says Keith Kupferschmid, the head of intellectual property at SIIA.

Check out the comments on the above articles. There are thousands of unsatisfied eBay sellers and buyers reacting to recent eBay changes.

eBay shares fell from $30.38 to $28.17 in past 30 days. Yahoo finance forum for EBAY stock is flooded with unhappy EBAY sellers and buyers who resourced to account for their negative experiences with eBay and PayPal there as more and more eBayers realize that eBay will not listen to any other voice of reason but it’s Shareholders and financial bloggers are also noticing the trend: Here is a lates article eBay Falls from Grace from Yahoo Tech Ticker Blog

For those who don’t know, Leo Leporte has over 2 million listeners on his podcast TWiT, and his weekend radio show (KFI-AM) in Los Angeles which is also podcasted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Laporte

You can listen to this MP3 broadcast snipped from Leo’s show (4.6 Megs)
where Leo Raporte and Dick DeBartolo account how they were scammed on eBay. They both used PayPal to pay for transaction and lost their money because in reality, PayPal protection was non existent. Listen to the podcast, it’s about 10 minutes long and will open your eyes and hopefully raise your caution when considering buying on eBay :

Click here to listen to the PodCast by Leo Raporte and Dick DeBartolo

After getting burned twice, this time for $2,200:

“eBay doesn’t seem to do very much to prevent [scammers] or discourage [scammers].”

“We’re not protected…[regarding Paypal]“.

“I will never buy anything on eBay ever again….and I going to go on my radio show on a regular basis and tell everybody that.”

Source: See show 588, about 1/2 way down the podcast.
http://twit.tv/dgw588 (Our recording starts at 7th minute of the original PodCast)

I had to bring that lipstick on a pig picture in again. eBay has just been exposed trying to hide / delete / censor the ugly fallout from it’s new feeback policy.

eBay is full of scammers. eBay has been full of scammers. eBay is a scammer paradise. eBay tries their damnest to deny this and hide the truth about scams on it’s own site, instead of working to eliminate those scams.

In the traditional spirit of trying to hide the scams and scam artists on eBay site, misleading unsuspecting users to that false feeling of eBay being safe, once again, eBay deleted evidence of the new eBay feedback policy changes being immediately adopted by eBay scammers to abuse eBay members.

While eBay focuses it’s efforts on covering up scams on eBay and PayPal sites EBAY shares dropped 2.33% in a single day down to $29.31 by close of market June 2, 2008.

If eBay censors YOU on eBay message Boards, I recommend you take a look at the Yahoo Message FORUM for eBAY stock, perhaps eBay censors can silence you on eBay forums, but you can still present your story to eBAY shareholders, so they are not kept in dark.
visit eBay FINANCE FORUM ON YAHOO We know eBay does not listen to it’s customers, BUT eBay does listen to it’s shareholders.

So what is this all about? Stay with me for a minute.

eBay feedback changes: eBay no longer allows eBay sellers to leave negative or neutral feedback for buyers. eBay sellers are screaming bloody murder because they know eBay is full of con artists or nutso buyers who will abuse this and try to extort financial gain from the sellers threatening unjustified negative feedback, leaving just plain crazy malicious eBay feedback, destroying business reputations on a whim.

Yesterday AuctionBytes brought published article on eBay’s new feedback policy being abused by scam artist to extort money from eBay sellers. A link to the eBay seller discussion forum is provided from the AuctionBytes article.

Sure enough, eBay deleted the whole discussion. If you try to reach the link pointed to by AuctionBytes Article Sopranos Meets eBay in Feedback Extortion Scheme
The other case involves a feedback extortion ring that looks like an eBay version of the Sopranos. An eBay seller posting on the eBay discussion boards published correspondence he said he received from the winner of one of his auctions. The buyer reportedly said he and four other eBay users “are in the business of selling Positive Feedbacks to eBay Sellers for $20 each, totaling $100 for 5 Positive Feedbacks. If you purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks for $100, you not only get to sell your items, you also receive 5 Positive Feedbacks. As you well know, Feedback is EVERYTHING to an eBay seller on whether they are successful or not. I’m sure that you want to remain successful in your eBay business. Plus, along with the 5 Positive Feedbacks, we will also Guarantee Never to contact you again and we take you off of our list.”

This article links to:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=1000711130&tstart=0&mod=1212267983950 and if you click on that link…. YOU GUESSED IT! IT WAS DELETED BY EBAY
Instead of that eBay discussion, you will see a message:
This discussion thread has been removed for one of the following reasons:
-the initial post in the thread was in violation of our Board Usage Policy.
-the member that started the thread has requested that it be removed.
-the thread expired due to inactivity

eBay routinely censors “uncomfortable” truths from it’s forums. Thus we even have a specific section here, ebay censorship, dedicated to what never existed on eBay… or at least what eBay claims never existed or was removed by a glitch, mistake or an oooopsie!

Now let’s see, we know the member did not ask for their message board thread to be removed. So that’s out. Next: we could not find anything in the initial post to be against eBay Board Usage Policy - and the thread certainly did not expire due to inactivity… the comments kept pouring in, there were over 400 when eBay censor decided to pull the plug. So what was it?

Again, it must be accidental, as the current eBay spokesperson put it describing previous eBay Discussion Board deletions:

…suggested that forum posts critical of eBay’s policies had been deleted. EBay denied that any forum deletions were intentional. If any posts were taken down “it was accidental,” the spokesman said. “We’re not afraid of hearing from our community and allowing them to post and discuss things and be angry on our boards”

Here is a page one of the DELETED EBAY DISCUSSION, certainly no rule breaking there, IT’S JUST YOUR USUAL COVER UP BY EBAY, TRYING TO HIDE SCAMS AND PROTECT SCAM ARTISTS ON IT’S SITE:

Discussion Post a reply | Print
Sellers, I just got the following email:
in**anaftw (9 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:01 PDT
Listen very carefully. I am the winner of this item. I have 4 other eBay Users in place either bidding on or have won items from you plus myself totaling 5. We are prepared to leave you 5 Positive Feedbacks or 5 Negative Feedbacks depending on your actions. In a nutshell, we are in the business of selling Positive Feedbacks to eBay Sellers for $20 each, totaling $100 for 5 Positive Feedbacks. If you purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks for $100, you not only get to sell your items, you also receive 5 Positive Feedbacks. As you well know, Feedback is EVERYTHING to an eBay seller on whether they are successful or not. I’m sure that you want to remain successful in your eBay business. Plus, along with the 5 Positive Feedbacks, we will also Guarantee Never to contact you again and we take you off of our list. You’ll even get a receipt for your purchase. Now, here’s the important part. If you refuse to purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks, we will leave you 5 Negative Feedbacks for starters. We have 100’s & 100’s of eBay Users in place that we can use to leave feedbacks. In fact, we have enough to consistently leave you Negative Feedbacks for months resulting in you having to shut down your business. The absolute worst thing that you can do at this point is to try and contact eBay at any time about this or refuse to cooperate; we Will start leaving you Negative Feedbacks and shut your business down. Make no mistake, we’ve been doing this for years and have the power & resources to continually leave you Negative Feedbacks resulting in the closing of your business. Think about this, if you try to report us to eBay and they try and suspend our account or something like that, it will not stop us whatsoever. Remember, I said we have 100’s if not 1,000’s of eBay Users in place that we can use to leave you Negative Feedbacks over & over again until you are forced to shut your business down that you worked so hard to build up. Even if eBay were to keep suspending our user accounts, we have plenty more that we can use to keep leaving you Negative Feedbacks and there’s No way that eBay can keep up and stop us. They have tried & failed miserably. They also know about what we do. So the best and smartest thing that you can do is protect your business and just purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks from us. That way, it’s done and over with and you can successfully continue to run your business without ever hearing from us again. We will give you up to 72 hours from now, to reply. The sooner, the better of course. Just send us an email stating that you want to purchase the 5 Positive Feedbacks from us and let us know your main email that you use so we can contact you. If we don’t hear from you by the end of the 72 hours, we will assume that you are refusing to cooperate and we will start leaving you Negative Feedbacks. So don’t do anything stupid. The smartest thing that you can do is take this seriously, we know what we’re doing. After we hear your reply to this email, we will contact you with further instructions.

The buyer is in fact the person who won my auction.

So… what would you do?
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tr**arn (44 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:03 PDT 1 of 421
Report the email and send it to Ebay for FB extortion.
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19**jenn (15 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:03 PDT 2 of 421
Did this come through “my messages?” Yikes! I’d forward it to ebay.
Folks, hang onto your dashboards.
Here comes another speedbump!
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tr**arn (44 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:03 PDT 3 of 421
What is the buyer’s ID so we can block them?
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in**anaftw (9 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:04 PDT 4 of 421
A little more about me and the auction:
Sold for just over $100
I used featured plus (will I get that $9.95 back?)
I am a lowly bronze power seller with sales just under $2,000/month, so nothing that outstanding, but it’s a good chunk of my income.

The buyer has 3 feedback, all over 1 year old and from NARUs.
The name and email address that it came from match the name and email on the account that won the auction, so this doesn’t seem to be a hidden scam from someone who isn’t an ebay user.
I currently have 100% positive and a little over 500 total feedback in the past year.
I’ve been told to call PS support on Monday about this and have forwarded the email to ebay.
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ch**t49 (91 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:06 PDT 5 of 421
so you have thier address? drive to thier house and burn it to the ground
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ci**girlhardware (378 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:06 PDT 6 of 421
This sounds like it might be criminal.
http://www.ic3.gov/
from the site:
“The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA).”
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pl**sedtameetcha (12 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:07 PDT 7 of 421
Scary.
LR
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lo**postid (0 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:14 PDT 8 of 421
sounds like a “business protection” fee to me LOL.

I would love to get this email!
Have it tracked to the hometown, and have them arested for extortion.
Sure, the cops don’t care about feedback, but:
The absolute worst thing that you can do at this point is to try and contact eBay at any time about this or refuse to cooperate; we Will start leaving you Negative Feedbacks and shut your business down. Make no mistake, we’ve been doing this for years and have the power & resources to continually leave you Negative Feedbacks resulting in the closing of your business.
That is a personal threat! Notice they don’t specify what “business”, it could be an in home business or in town. This is a personal threat, and should be treated as such.
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na**ybusinraleigh (2967 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:19 PDT 9 of 421
I would go to the media immediately, forget ebay, they’re slower than molasses in January in Alaska.
Print it out with full headers, a copy of the auction, a copy of the bidding history of that auction and all other pertinent paper trail and go to your local tv and newspapers with it.
I would also send it to the State AG’s office in the buyer’s state with a cover letter explaining factually (no emotion) how this came about.
Don’t let ebay bury this one.
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mo**erof3wonderfulkids (0 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:19 PDT 10 of 421
Wow
He won your auction and instead of paying you for the widget he bought he wants YOU to pay him $100 to get 5 Positives? That means he is ready to bid on 4 more of your auctions?
BLOCK HIM.
Then report him to Ebay…and pull contact information. It’s probably not valid and that is one of the reasons you can get negs removed.
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I’m offically on Strike-No listing and no buying until the Feedback Policy is Null and Void.
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pu**e*couture (Private ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:20 PDT 11 of 421
It was only a matter of time………..
And eBay claims it was “worried about SECOND CHANCE OFFERS”
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na**ybusinraleigh (2967 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:21 PDT 12 of 421
purse, don’t raise my blood pressure SCO scams my behind!
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tu**eyjackson (324 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:23 PDT 13 of 421
We’ll see if the system works. If eBay does what they say they’ll do, this nut is out of luck.
As to the fee credit for featured plus, yes, as long as this was not a multiple item listing and you successfully file the UID.
I wouldn’t mind turning into a vermilion goldfish.
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wi**ysgrandma (2341 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:23 PDT 14 of 421
Check your e-mail
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pu**e*couture (Private ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:24 PDT 15 of 421
Seriously, I get chills……………..thinking about SCO “fraud” claims by eBay
I swear, I have bought AT LEAST 900-1,000 widgets *PER YEAR* on eBay, and have NEVER received a fraudulent SCO.
Can you say fraudulent FRAUD?
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na**ybusinraleigh (2967 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:24 PDT 16 of 421
who are the other 4 referred to?
Come on, this is the system ebay created, let ebay handle this publicly and address how they will stop this nonsense now. Not one seller at a time.
It is extortion and it’s a chargeable offense.
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co**ie10 (11166 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:25 PDT 17 of 421
I would go to the media immediately, forget ebay, they’re slower than molasses in January in Alaska.
That’s probably the dumbest thing you’ve said on this board.
OP - you HAVE to report it to Ebay. They are the only people who can shut down this looney.
By all means, send it to the media as well, but Ebay must be your first port of call.
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ww**88 (Private ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:25 PDT 18 of 421
You need to report this to eBay as extortion. Pull the buyer’s contact info (email and phone) and call him and email him. If the phone and/or email is bogus, report to eBay (if bogus any feedback he gives will be deleted). His contact info will have his address. Call the police department in his city and file a report.
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ai**rushayatollah (198 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:26 PDT 19 of 421
They will block the one ID, then the seller will get negs and NPB’s out the wazoo.
I actually wouldn’t go through FeeBay because if they take any kind of action at all the police may not have to get involved.
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ho**luludance (32 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:26 PDT 20 of 421
Post this on Trust and Safety.
Does Powerseller support function over the weekend?
I’d call Live Help.
File the extortion report.
I wouldn’t answer them at all.
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ai**rushayatollah (198 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:26 PDT 21 of 421
Contact ISP though.
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na**ybusinraleigh (2967 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:28 PDT 22 of 421
IF ebay had a track record of doing the right thing in a timely manner, I would use ebay.
Can anyone say they’ve got a good track record?
Go to the media, let the media know that the system ebay has set up is failing miserably.
Not only will this fool leave negative feedback, the seller will then have to go through all of ebay’s hoops to get it removed.
Who are the other 4? Are there 4 others? Talk about the perfect threat.
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co**ie10 (11166 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:28 PDT 23 of 421
Shame you didn’t post with your real ID so that we could all see who this person is that won the auction.
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na**ybusinraleigh (2967 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:29 PDT 24 of 421
cobbie, posting with a selling ID is a good way for people to mess with your auctions, don’t you think the OP has had enough of that already?
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pl**t1here2 (Private ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:29 PDT 25 of 421
Send me their address.
If they’re close enough, I’d like to have face to face, um, chat with them,
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ai**rushayatollah (198 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:29 PDT 26 of 421
A cheerleader.
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ho**luludance (32 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:30 PDT 27 of 421
Shame you didn’t post with your real ID so that we could all see who this person is that won the auction.
Oh, yes, and then some numnut here will bring the buyer to this thread and all hell breaks loose.
Nancy, I appreciate your sentiment about eBay, but eBay DOES shut down people like this. The advice given here has to be what’s best for the OP, not what will embarrass eBay the most.
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tr**arn (44 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:31 PDT 28 of 421
This is one example of when a seller should post with their selling ID. Without it we can’t block or help report this scary buyer. What if this buyer is trying this scam on multiple sellers. The OP should warn them.
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lo**postid (0 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:31 PDT 29 of 421
After we hear your reply to this email, we will contact you with further instructions.
That was a mistake on their part. Respond to it and see what the ‘further instructions’ are! Maybe it’ll be a better way to get info on this guy.
Try telling him you need his account info so you can transfer the $100 to him directly. And you don’t trust paypal for this transaction.
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lo**postid (0 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:32 PDT 30 of 421
Join him in his game, but make sure he never actually gets any money from you
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pl**t1here2 (Private ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:33 PDT 31 of 421
Not sure if it was mentioned, but don’t worry about possible negs, Ebay most likely will do away with any you get from this.
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ca**mom3boys (924 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:34 PDT 32 of 421
Please post the auction number.
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na**ybusinraleigh (2967 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:34 PDT 33 of 421
Honolulu, if you think hiding this ‘in house’ with ebay is the solution, fine.
I don’t. This is out of control garbage and those who want to stay and sell are getting all kinds of ridiculous feedback (because a buyer can with impunity ) and then this kind of cr@p?
And since the policies have changed, get an eyefull and see what people are teaching others to do to sellers on ebay, just google it and you’ll be shocked.
The plans are being formulated and some will take it to the extreme we see here.
Unless someone is prosecuted or publicly shamed, it will not stop.
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tr**arn (44 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:34 PDT 34 of 421
Lulu, I didn’t think about someone tattling to the buyer. There are some that would do just that.
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pl**t1here2 (Private ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:35 PDT 35 of 421
These people need to be jailed.
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na**ybusinraleigh (2967 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:35 PDT 36 of 421
Furthermore, will ebay block this buyer from registering again? How?
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ai**rushayatollah (198 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:35 PDT 37 of 421
Wall Street Journal.
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my**gbokali (256 ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:36 PDT 38 of 421
This is BS OP….report to ebay, call the police, scream it on the hilltops…I wouild tell everyone you can. YOU CANNOT LET THEM DO THIS TO YOU…..no matter what they say.
DO NOT GIVE IN….please. I wish I could help you personaly cause this is just down right wrong not to mention has to be against the law.
and its EBays fault. Sorry, just my opinion.
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mi**yteoil (Private ) View Listings | Report May-31-08 14:37 PDT 39 of 421
You really need to report this guy under multiple reporting functions through ebay. Maybe forward it to the higher ups at eBay also. They really should see what has been created with their new fb policy.
I also agree that it is a shame that we don’t know the id of this person.
Does he have a lot of fb?
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and a screenshot of page 1 of 11 of the Censored / Deleted eBay forum from the Google Cache

How much do you wanna bet eBay will request Google to delete the cache???

A new video how to scam eBay pulse was just recently published on gurucreation.com. It shows blow by blow action how some eBay members gamed the eBay pulse by using a bot software to create thousands of fake eBay user ID’s and placing watches on their items ( they all sell those get-rich-quick on eBay ebooks )

This blogger watcheditem.com shows step by step how the pulse scam works.

One interesting thing: Kekoa64 - one of the eBay sellers being credited by using this fraudulent sofware, claims in his Press Release, that eBay has purchased his blog, website etc… for an undisclosed amount so it can teach other eBay sellers how to be successfull on eBay. Here is a quote from that press release:

Friday, April 4, 2008
Kekoa64.com bought out by eBay Inc.
HONOLULU, HI (PR Newswire) - EBAY INC. based in San Jose, Calif., has acquired Kekoa64.com and eBay user id Kekoa64. “Kekoa64 - Internet Entrepreneur, eBay PowerSeller” (http://www.kekoa64.com).

Starting May 1st, eBay, and its affiliates, will use the site as a promotional tool. “We are excited at the amazing opportunity to work with Kekoa” says Dennis Breckford, Senior VP of Marketing at eBay, “we look forward to seeing how his ideas can take us to the next level”.

The company plans on a complete redesign of the site and blog. eBay also plans to keep his existing product line, as well as develop new products with him. Kekoa will remain the creative force behind the products and promotions, however, eBay will incorporate their own products in to the marketing mix.

“When eBay first contacted me about the opportunity, I thought it was a hoax, one of those phishing emails” says Kekoa Chung, 24, Kailua, HI. “The funny thing is, I was actually suspended (from eBay) at the time, and I thought it was a bit ironic that they wanted to buy me out. When I learned that it was infact true, I called Dennis and jumped on the idea.”

eBay Inc. plans on acquiring more PowerSellers like Kekoa to promote it’s website to more targeted niches. “This is the first of many more acquisitions to come” says Breckford.

Breckford will not discuss the amount Kekoa64.com was purchased for, but says that he will “not have to work another day in his life”.

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Update 4-27-2008
Hey, I just read the rest of the page and see the kekoa64.com blog press release is fake: there is a P.S.
under the picture
“Stay tuned to see what will happens next….
P.S. I didn’t have the time to get you guys on the first, so Aperow Fulls! :)”

Update 5-20-2008
It appears that all three eBay pulse scammers have been NARU’d by eBay:

• kekoa64
• mysterygiant
• jjfjq

According to Spiegel article from yesterday translated by Google

eBay is aware that professional hackers are harvesting your eBay user infornation including your eBay username, password, bank info, partial credit card number and expiration date as well as your secret question. eBay has been made aware of this issue by one of it’s users faller-internet.de who describes the eBay flash XSS vulnerability in detail here

Each logged-in eBay member, on who’s computer the Flash plugin is installed, and who has allowed JavaScript, can become victim of this security vulnerability. The test showed that data scripting is possible completely unrecognized by the victim. And so the view into the personal sphere of „My eBay” works:
The criminal lists a rather prominent item on eBay, with a specially prepared Flash animation embedded into the item description. If a logged-in user visits this page his browser loads the malicious code of the scammer. This contains JavaScript which sends the eBay cookies of the user to the criminal. This import of external codes is already known since years as Cross Site Scripting (XSS).
As the Flash file is executed only on the computer of the victim user, eBay is unable to check the listing on prohibited JavaScript executables. eBay members can protect theirselves by generally disabling JavaScript in their browser, however, in that case the use of normal eBay pages is heavily influenced, important functions will not work without JavaScript

Here are the screenshots from Spiegel when Spiegel employee went to eBay :

This is how your private and financial information gets extracted by hackers by simply accessing some auctions on eBay (click thumbnail to see full size image)

1. EBay Home: A SPIEGEL ONLINE employee logs with his eBay account, then continues
2. … For the demonstration of the vulnerability of prepared Auction Site eBay. Here is a flash element of an external server embedded - not recognizable with naked eye, this flash element extracts your private information. This element is embedded flash …
3. … Reads personal data of the user logged into eBay, worse yet: It tries to pass on this user data via this vulnerability to a real looking page login dialog on hackers’ server.
4. … It ceases only when the page information is retrieved: Whatever it enters the login credentials into the fake eBay login form, it then sends the login info to the to an external (hacker’s) server. There could …
5. … Cyber-crooks extract data from the visitors browsing its auction site and manage bidders: eBay login name and password of bidders and all (even visitors to the auction site, who have not bid, but were logged!) The e-mail address, List of search-favourites, the address and the name of the subject - the ideal material for perfect phishing emails to use… Look at the screen shot: it offers glimpse of your login, password , eBay secret question, banking and credit card info.

eBay spokeswoman Maike Fuest was quoted in the Spiegle Article: “It is possible, on active content such as Flash and Javascript in auction descriptions to have a malicious content.” …
EBay allows sellers only a limited active flash contentWhy then eBay permits such dangerous content is it’s auctions and listings?

Fuest: “That would contradict eBay culture. We want our vendors to have a certin creative freedom in the design of their auctions” “EBay uses a different way to reduce the risk of malicious content in active listings. Since September 2005, only some, especially those active trusted members are allowed this content in their item descriptions. ”

It appears that user security is second to profiteering on eBay. Although eBay has been aware of this vulnerability on their own site for months now, eBay spokespeople reiterate eBay’s management position that giving a vendor a freedom to publish razzle dazzle flash auction is more important that few thousand or tens of thousands? of user logins , confidential financial information and credentials being phished out by cyber criminals directly on eBay site in it’s listings. This is a clear example of eBay placing it’s own profits over user safety. eBay knowingly allows phishing attacks by eBay hackers directly on their own auction listings. eBay users credentials are being offered by eBay to the hackers so eBay’s vendor auctions will look flashier so eBay can collect more fees for sold items.

REFERENCES:

• AuctionBytes Article published today: Watchdog Group Gives Live Demo of eBay Security Vulnerability
  By Ina & David Steiner
• Speigel Online Article original Text in German
  
• falle-internet.de Original article exposing eBay’s XSS flash vulnerability: My view into „your eBay” - the eBay XSS flash exploit.
• German Forum where users report Hijacked Seller account real time, so if you wanted to see some sellers currently being phished and fake auctions published on their Seller Accounts, take a look here.

From eBay’s company history:
“eBay was conceived initially as a result of a conversation between Pierre Omidyar and his wife, an avid PEZ collector (she currently covets a collection of more than 400 dispensers). She commented to Pierre how great it would be if she were able to collect PEZ dispensers and interact with other collectors over the Internet.”

and here is from CNN:

Speaking of eBay, its founder, Pierre Omidyar, dated a PEZ collector who used the site in its earliest incarnation to buy and sell rare dispensers.

“Pam Omidyar, the fiancée and now wife of the gentleman who started eBay, was a PEZ collector, and she still is,” said Kevin Pursglove, a spokesperson for eBay.

But then again, you can see articles like this:
Friday, July 19, 2002
The Times: eBay’s creation myth exposed

How did eBay make a boring tech firm look sexy? By inventing its own ‘creation myth’. David Rowan reports

It was the warm, smalltown story of a corporate giant’s humble beginnings that enticed Business Week, The Wall Street Journal, even the fact-obsessed New Yorker. When Pam Wesley wanted to boost her collection of Pez sweet dispensers, her fiance, Pierre Omidyar, built a website for her to trade them. That website grew to be the huge online auction house eBay, one of the internet gold rush’s few success stories - even though, in the words of the company’s PR chief, Mary Lou Song, it began simply “as kind of a love token”.

It was a touching tale, recounted in endless profiles on both sides of the Atlantic, with only one flaw: it was a lie. As Song admits in a new book by Adam Cohen, The Perfect Store: Inside eBay, she invented the story five years ago to generate publicity for an otherwise dull tech company. “No one wants to hear about a 30-year-old genius who wanted to create a perfect market,” Song confesses. So she constructed what corporate PRs call a “creation myth”, and hoodwinked some of the world’s most respected reporters. Some of her victims are furious.

“If they lied to me, and then to the New Yorker’s diligent fact-checkers, then I’m angry,” fumes James Gleick, who profiled eBay in the magazine three years ago and then in his book What Just Happened. “I am embarrassed. My readers are meant to be able to rely on me.”

Equally indignant is Susan Moran, who covered the company for the online magazine Salon. “I feel misled, duped, embarrassed, stupid and angry,” she says. “As a journalist I’m usually on guard against lies or smoother mistruths. But somehow I felt differently about Pierre. Now he’s just another US CEO to doubt.”

The issue raises questions about how far corporate publicists mislead journalists to generate favourable press. There is nothing new in a company’s PRs exaggerating its humble origins, according to David Brain, the joint CEO of the communications agency Weber Shandwick, but an outright lie carries huge risks. “These myths of inception are a powerful way of communicating some truth about a company’s DNA, and are usually told once the company has grown big,” he explains. “You’ll hear that Richard Branson started the Virgin record empire from a phone box at university, or Hewlett-Packard began in a garage. There’s probably an element of truth there, but we’d never advise a client to fib. Once you know you’ve been lied to, the whole reason for trusting that brand has been negated.”

Jon Aarons, the president of the Institute of Public Relations, insists that for this reason, such lies are rare. But he believes that journalists often conspire with PRs in “an unholy alliance” to enliven their stories: “The media are just as guilty for not checking out these myths.”

That is certainly eBay’s defence this week. “I honestly believe we did not intend to mislead anyone,” claims an eBay spokesman, Kevin Pursglove, rather unconvincingly. He admits that “Pez’s role in eBay’s creation may have taken on a life of its own”, but blames journalists for ignoring more mundane angles.

“Reporters didn’t show much interest in marketplaces, or battered keyboards or Star Wars artefacts for sale,” he says - until they heard the Pez story. “Inevitably, the finished story would mention the Pez angle but leave out virtually all the other factors.”

Tech companies, often those hardest to sell to journalists as “sexy”, are those most commonly linked with creation myths. Apple Computers and Hewlett-Packard even ran commercials celebrating their garage origins. When three management consultants launched an online betting site, Flutter.com, three years ago, it was widely reported that it stemmed from their own betting competitions during a Super Bowl party. “That wasn’t the case,” says a source close to the team, “but it didn’t stop them winning the column inches.”